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I'm wanting to find something better than the ISE for my day-to-day scripting, and I've come across a few good choices, such as Idera's PowerShellPlus (which I admit, I've not really played around with, but it's free). The one recommended by Don Jones and Jeffrey Hicks seems to be Sapien Powershell Studio, but I'm really hesitant to shell out almost $400 for it, though I like some of the features in it. Alternatively, they offer a free community edition of the old version of it, Primal Forms; then, there's the more general-purpose coding/scripting platform they have, PrimalScript (which costs the same as Powershell Studio).

Okay, I'm overwhelmed.I also can't find anything that shows what PSStudio offers that PrimalForms Free doesn't, and the only thing I can find that PSStudio does over PrimalScript is the ability to create a GUI interface (which I'd really like to do!). Also, I've not found anyone who's compared them to PowershellPlus. So, does anyone have good experience with these different products? Or maybe another great scripting tool to point me to? I'd love some help and ideas!

I've used pretty much all of these tools. PowerShell Plus was my favorite for a long time, but for a variety of reasons, I've gone back to using the ISE. I found PowerShell Plus had a really long startup time, and I just hated the Ribbon UI.

And with ISE being extensible (and PowerShell Plus not), I've kept with the ISE. I've used both of the Spaien tools. What these tools offer is the ability to create simple powershell-based GUIs.THey get you to draw a form, decorate it with controls, then allow you to wire-up scripts to each control. This is a very powerful way to create very simple GUIs. The difference between the two products is time (one is much older) and richness. IIRC, you get more controls with the pay version. You might try the free version and see if you like it before shelling out for the full version.

I use the full version on occasion and like it. Don used to work for Sapien as did I think Jeff Hicks, FWIW. I use PowerGUI myself. PowerShell Plus was pretty good, but-for me-I found it a slow overall feel.

I did purchase PowerShell Studio and kinda wish I hadn't. The forms part is amazing and probably worth the price of admission for that, but the general user experience was bad. What I didn't like about it was you could rearrange all of the windows but it wouldn't save them, so you had to rearrange them again the next time you started up. Also, the interface COMPLETELY reconfigures itself when you run/debug a script and the variable window is not up by default. The variable window will show you all of your variables and their values as you step through each line of script. So I had to rearrange the window EVERY time I ran a script!!! To make matters worse, it would show recently created variables at the top, then shuffle them down to the alphabetical list.

SO I was always hunting for the variable (is it up here. No, must be down here.) It also shows ALL of the built in PowerShell variables (and there are a lot).

Most of which I didn't care about so there was always a lot of fluff that I didn't need. ISE lacks a variable window and when troubleshooting a complex script I find that too limiting. PowerGUI is a fast interface (ok, load time is attrociously slow and the first time you run a script is slow, but good after that), and it's very clean. It runs in the same configuration you code in so no goofy screen switching. You can also 'step into' a script, so instead of setting a breakpoint inside the script then hitting RUN and then using F11 to step through each line (from the breakpoint) you can just hit F11 to start the script and it will begin stepping through each line from the beginning. Fantastic when writing little 10 line scripts.

PowerGUI has some glaring faults. It's handling of RSAT objects is awful to completely broken-not surprisingly it does great with Quest tools-which is a pretty big one but I've found that doesn't limit me THAT badly. I fall back to the ISE in those cases. Hope that helps. I owned a personal license for PowerShellPlus when it was commercial.

I don't believe it did forms at all. I've moved away from that product since it became free-to-use because there is a serious bug with the debugger and how it handles foreach loops. According to Idera, this is due to the Microsoft Powershell API changing out from under them, and they were not optimistic about finding a fix.

I would have lived with this if it had been a more obscure corner case, but I've hit it more than once on some very mundane use-cases, at least to me. I've used and like PrimalForms Community but it of course is long in the tooth and I haven't done many projects with it recently. The built-in ISE has been much improved and is the most reliable and available IDE I have available so I've had to stick with that. Martin9700 wrote: I use PowerGUI myself.

PowerShell Plus was pretty good, but-for me-I found it a slow overall feel. I did purchase PowerShell Studio and kinda wish I hadn't. The forms part is amazing and probably worth the price of admission for that, but the general user experience was bad. What I didn't like about it was you could rearrange all of the windows but it wouldn't save them, so you had to rearrange them again the next time you started up. Also, the interface COMPLETELY reconfigures itself when you run/debug a script and the variable window is not up by default. The variable window will show you all of your variables and their values as you step through each line of script.

So I had to rearrange the window EVERY time I ran a script!!! To make matters worse, it would show recently created variables at the top, then shuffle them down to the alphabetical list. SO I was always hunting for the variable (is it up here. No, must be down here.) It also shows ALL of the built in PowerShell variables (and there are a lot). Most of which I didn't care about so there was always a lot of fluff that I didn't need. ISE lacks a variable window and when troubleshooting a complex script I find that too limiting.

PowerGUI is a fast interface (ok, load time is attrociously slow and the first time you run a script is slow, but good after that), and it's very clean. It runs in the same configuration you code in so no goofy screen switching. You can also 'step into' a script, so instead of setting a breakpoint inside the script then hitting RUN and then using F11 to step through each line (from the breakpoint) you can just hit F11 to start the script and it will begin stepping through each line from the beginning. Fantastic when writing little 10 line scripts. PowerGUI has some glaring faults. It's handling of RSAT objects is awful to completely broken-not surprisingly it does great with Quest tools-which is a pretty big one but I've found that doesn't limit me THAT badly.

I fall back to the ISE in those cases. Hope that helps. Guess you should have read the manual for PowerShell Studio.

You can switch off the auto-layout and create your own layout. It's actually super easy.

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